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's george stephanopoulos, lon snowden, the father of fuj fif nsa leaker ed ward snowden. the family lawyer says it will happen very soon. >> we have visas. we have a date which we won't disclose right now. >> reporter: the purpose of the trip to come up with the criminal defense against charges of espionage. >> what i would like is for this to be vetted and open court for the american people to have all of the facts. >> reporter: the elder snowden is not convinced his son could get a fair trial. >> when you kid many of the statements made by our leaders they have poisoned the well so to speak in terms of a potential jury pool. >> reporter: just friday, president obama had this to say. >> i don't think mr. snowden was a patriot. there were other avenues available. >> reporter: mr. obama outlined new measures to reform the programs snowden revealed saying he would have done it anyway. >> i called for a thorough review of our surveillance operations before mr. snowden made these leaks. >> this weekend, julian assange took issue with the administration saying reforms are being made therefore e
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